Maria Elisabeth Bak[1, 2]

Female 1893 - 1977  (83 years)


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  • Name Maria Elisabeth Bak 
    Born 9 Oct 1893  Maryborough, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4
    Address:
    Ferry Street 
    Gender Female 
    Cremated Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Address:
    Eastern Suburbs Crematorium 
    _UID 83B2202F987743048B16B6406EBE05F39525 
    Died 2 Jul 1977  Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Address:
    108 Carrington Road, Waverley 
    Person ID I6788  Treefive
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2017 

    Father Julius Jensen,   b. 4 Jun 1856, Aalborg, North Jutland, Denmark Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 14 Aug 1921, Dunmora, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years) 
    Mother Christina Helena Pohlmann,   b. Abt 1867, Kaltenkirchen, Schleswig Holstein, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Nov 1899, Marianna, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Married 18 Feb 1888  Maryborough, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Address:
    the Lutheran Church 
    Family ID F1715  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Thomas Mileham Thick,   b. 1889, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 May 1984, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 95 years) 
    Married 18 Mar 1911  Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 9
    Address:
    St Pauls Church, Redfern 
    Divorced 22 Oct 1923  New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Mileham Thick,   b. 13 Oct 1911, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Aug 2006  (Age 94 years)
     2. Olga Beatrice Thick,   b. 15 May 1913, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jun 1993  (Age 80 years)
     3. Living
     4. Marion May Thick,   b. 21 Jul 1916,   d. 2007  (Age 90 years)
    Last Modified 12 Sep 2019 
    Family ID F1820  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Reginald Boyland,   b. 26 Dec 1883, Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Oct 1954, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years) 
    Married 1936  New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11
    Last Modified 12 Sep 2019 
    Family ID F1920  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Living
    Last Modified 12 Sep 2019 
    Family ID F2180  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 


    • Maria Elisabeth was born on 9 Oct 1893 at Ferry Street, Maryborough. The informant of the birth was her mother, Christina and the witness was Mrs Cichouski, the nurse.

      Little is known about Maria before her marriage to Thomas Mileham Thick on 18 Mar 1911 at St Paul’s Church, Redfern or after her divorce which was granted on 22 Oct 1923.

      After the death of her mother and sister Julia in 1899, Maria may have remained with her father and siblings, at least until after the court hearings in May 1900 which found that her father was not fit to care for the children. Maria was named (as Mary) in the court record as one of the four neglected Jensen children - though there were actually five children living at that time. She is not with her 3 sisters and brother on the Diamantina Orphanage register 1900-1903.

      However, all documents relating to the drowning and the court hearings are consistent with Maria/Mary having been removed from the family scene well before the drownings. Apart from her name as one of the “neglected children” in one court record, she is not mentioned, and all accounts indicate that there were four Bak children, not 5. The name “Mary” aged 8 in the document may be a mistake - perhaps it should be Nancy aged 2 or 3.

      A visit to the N.S.W. Archives by John Goodwin on 6 May 2016 revealed that probate of John Ramage Campbell's will was granted on 2 Nov 1943. Among the probate papers was a letter dated 5 Jan 1949 from Maria Elisabeth Boyland, prev. Thick nee Jensen Bak (Maria was a niece of John Ramage's wife Marie). This was written 6 years after death of John Ramage Campbell. In the letter, Maria states that, after the death of her mother, she lived with her aunt and uncle viz: Marie Elizabeth and John Ramage Campbell nee Pohlmann. This confirms that she was not with her siblings at the Diamantina Orphanage. Maria further states that she took the name of Campbell whilst living with them.

      It is possible that Nancy joined her sister Maria, to live with their aunt and uncle at Canley Vale.

      Maria married Thomas Mileham Thick under her maiden name of Jensen Bak. However as it took Maria six years after Campbell’s death to write the letter found in his probate papers, it would indicate she was not close to her aunt and uncle. Perhaps she was seeking a possible inheritance.

      When Maria married at 17 years of age, consent was given by the Guardian of Minors. The witnesses were W.G. Phin (Thomas Mileham Thick’s brother-in-law, and Elizabeth Rook, possibly a friend of Maria. None of her sisters acted as witnesses.

      It is curious that her aunt Marie Elizabeth did not tell Maria that her father was still alive, and allowed the N.S.W. Guardian to authorise the marriage. Maria stated, in her 1949 letter, that she was unsure if she was adopted or not. If this was true, she was unaware of the participation in her marriage by the N.S.W. Guardian, or just bending the truth.

      There seem to be several possibilities as to why the NSW Guardian became involved:
      - Marie Elizabeth did not know that Julius was alive. This seems unlikely, as the Guardian would surely have then made enquiries to find him;
      - she lied and said he was dead, to protect Maria from her father, and to enable her to marry. Perhaps Marie suspected that Julius would not agree to the marriage;
      - Marie and Maria colluded in saying that Julius was dead, to allow the marriage to proceed without his knowledge. Perhaps he had pressured Maria to return to Qld to look after him, and marriage was seen as a good (if extreme) way to avoid this. It may not be coincidence that Maria's marriage ended about 1922, when her father had died in 1921.

      It would appear that Maria either knew little about her father or avoided mentioning him - there certainly looks to be some sort of family communication breakdown.

      The divorce between Maria and Thomas Thick was petitioned by Thomas on the grounds of desertion and was uncontested. The desertion claim looks rather odd as Maria, when receiving the divorce papers (6 Nov 1922), was living with her sister-in-law Mary Agnes Phin nee Thick (Thomas's sister) at 60 Womerah Avenue, Darlinghurst. Curiously, Mary Agnes Phin was called as a witness for the petitioner (Thomas).

      After the divorce in 1923, Maria visited her children occasionally, both at their orphanages and at Kingsgrove. However, as the years progressed, the visits became less frequent.

      In 1927 Maria gave birth to a baby girl, whom she named Joyce Evelyn. The father's name is not known. It is possible that it was Reginald Boyland, even though Maria (describing herself as Mary Elizabeth Jensen Thick) and Reginald did not marry until 1936. The New South Wales electoral rolls indicate that Reginald and Maria had been living together in the Sydney area since at least 1930, with Maria calling herself Mary Elizabeth Boyland. Joyce gave her name as Joyce Evelyn Boyland when she married in 1945 .

      A Marie Elizabeth Boyland married Harry Robert Frederick Jensen Taylor in 1953 at Griffith, NSW - in spite of the Boyland and Jensen names, there is no connection between this couple and Maria.

      Maria lived in Sydney - in 1937 she was at Woodbine Avenue with Reginald. When he signed a statutory declaration about his lost army discharge record in 1938, he was living at Dawes Point - perhaps Maria was there too. But he moved to Queensland and died there in 1954. In the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s Maria was living at 131 Pacific Highway in Sydney.

      Maria died a widow on 27 July 1977 of a coronary occlusion (heart attack), at her home at 108 Carrington Road, Waverley, Sydney. Maria's daughter, Joyce Evelyn Weller nee Boyland, of the same address, was the informant.

      Maria’s remains were cremated at the Eastern Suburbs Crematorium and her ashes were collected for a private ceremony.

  • Sources 
    1. [S1609] BIR Birth Index New South Wales, Thomas M. Thick; 43922; Paddington; 1911.

    2. [S2677] TRE149-150 Family tree Pohlmann, Jochim and Asmus, Catharina Margaretha: from Trevor Pohlmann Nov 2014, TRE149, TRE150., Family tree descendancy chart for Jochim Pohlmann and Catharina Margaretha Asmus; November 2014.

    3. [S1289] BIR Birth Index Queensland, Maria Elisabeth Bak; 8171; 1893.

    4. [S2722] BIR359 Birth Bak, Maria Elisabeth, BIR359., Brisbane; Maria Elisabeth Bak; 9 October 1893; true copy of an entry in the birth register; 8171; 12 April 1985.

    5. [S1287] MAR Marriage Index Queensland, Julius Jensen Bak and Christina Helen Pohlmann; C1452; 1888.

    6. [S2723] MAR422 Marriage Bak, Julius Jensen and Pohlmann, Christine Helene, MAR422., Brisbane, Queensland, Australia; Julius Jensen Bak and Christine Helene Pohlmann; 18 February 1888; true copy of an entry in a register of marriages; 1452; 22 February 1888.

    7. [S3888] MAR Queensland Register of Marriages, General Registry Office, Brisbane; Julius Jensen BAK and Christine Helene POHLMANN; 18 February 1888; certified copy of an entry in a Register of Marriages; A86311; 27 March 1985.

    8. [S3888] MAR Queensland Register of Marriages, General Registry Office, Brisbane; Julius Jensen BAK and Christine Helene POHLMANN; 18 February 1888; copy of an entry in a Register of Marriages, by Greg Pohlmann, solicitor; 10 June 1974.

    9. [S1403] MAR Marriage Index New South Wales, Thomas M. Thick and Mary E. Bak; 3861; 1911; Sydney.

    10. [S1403] MAR Marriage Index New South Wales, Reginald Boyland and Mary Elizabeth Jensen Thick; 324; 1936; Sydney.

    11. [S1403] MAR Marriage Index New South Wales, Reginald Boyland and Mary Elizabeth Jensen Bak; 324; 1936; Sydney.